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5/19/11

The political depth in this town is amazing

I overheard two guys talking about the 2012 presidential election, and who they were hoping was going to be the Republican primary contender...

One wanted trump.

The other wanted Mike Huckabee.

hehehe....

I interjected, and pointed out to the gentleman that both of their choices have bowed out in recent days, saying they had no intention in running for president.

Their response?  "Well I don't care WHO it is, as long as it's not Obama!"

Wow people, really?

This type of political ignorance drives me crazy.  People who vote along party lines, no matter who the candidate is.  If you're a Democrat, you're only allowed to vote Democrat.  Even when you have a schlub canidate like Michael Dukakis... Or Republicans only voting red, even when Bob Dole is the voice of your party.

I'm sorry, but I refrain from casting my vote until I look at the people running.  I want to know where they stand, what they believe in, and what they want to do in office before I vote A vs B.


So far, looking at the Republican side of things, I'm not too impressed with the choices.  The only one I think stands a chance of unifying the country and getting support from both sides would be Gary Johnson, former governor of New Mexico.  He has no problem calling out BS, even from his own party.  Reading about him, I agree with a decent amount of issues he brings up.  And, unlike Trump, GJ has succeeded in business without hitting the "BK" button over and over.

But, for now, it's too early to tell.  Sadly, people like the two stooges mentioned above don't care.  If you put a Butterball Turkey against Obama right now, and like the Turkey as a Republican, I'm afraid it would get at least 20%-30% of the vote.

Back to a phrase I used: unifying the country and getting support from both sides.  This is what I want to see in a candidate, whether it be an R or a D after his name.  Why?  We have been at a 50/50 split since the 2000 election.  This country is divided, and in a bad bad way.  I'm hoping to see this change, and soon.  The battle of "Dems vs Repubs: We Are Right (and you are not)" is getting old.

Oh well.  The BS is the same for both sides.  About 25% will always vote red, and 25% will always vote blue.  Let's just hope the remaining 50% (the smart ones) make the right decision in 2012, whatever that may be.
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Xenototh said...

I am not looking forward to this political mess. It depresses me that people don't do any research on candidates, but will so vehemently oppose or support them. And we wonder why the system is broken?

Gucci Mama said...

Trump was never a real candidate and never a real Republican. It shocks me, quite frankly, that more people didn't see right through him. I'm thankful he stopped the ruse.

Huckabee did Conservatives a favor by deciding not to run.

Right now it looks like it could be Romney's to lose, although he's not my choice. I'm a Pawlenty girl and I'd love to see him pull into the lead, but Romney has the dough. Still, Pawlenty was fabulous in Minnesota and he definitely stood out in the first Republican debate. I really hope he can pull it off. I'm also a huge Cain fan, though he's so unknown and lacking in experience that I doubt he has a prayer.

Quite frankly, a butterball turkey WOULD be a better choice than Obama. He's not just incompetent, he's destructive, and I think purposefully so.

This doesn't really fit into my comment, but I'm not writing anything political at my place until next week and my fingers are dying to type this. NEWT GINGRICH = FAIL.

There. I feel better.

2012 cannot come fast enough for me, and for any American who cares about having a recognizable America in the future.

D4 said...

I think by pegging 50% to be smart, you're overestimating the amount of smart people who actually vote. But I agree with just about everything else.

To me it's always felt like whichever party can make the most babies is gonna win the vote. Most people are just born into it and never feel the need to change. I don't like it. I think if we got rid of parties and just left the politicians all mixed together, people would be forced to take into consideration what they're voting for.

squatlo said...

Never underestimate the ignorance and gullibility of the American voter. If you think 50% of them actually care enough to concern themselves with the positions of the candidates (versus the soundbite bumper sticker politics of their handlers) you're sadly overestimating the American public.

I'll vote for Obama again before anyone who's announced for the GOP. That's a sad field of candidates... when an asshole like Trump can stay in the number one spot for more than thirty seconds in public opinion, you have to wonder about the rest of the field.

What's wrong with having adult supervision for a change???

RedHeadRob said...

All I know is that the Republican party has a lot of ground to cover to if they want to catch my interest in next year's election.

BigMike said...

If you put a Butterball Turkey against Obama right now, and like the Turkey as a Republican, I'm afraid it would get at least 20%-30% of the vote.

I think the turkey would get closer to 40%...

Gucci Mama said...

I think the turkey would deserve closer to 40%!

123 said...

hey, i'd vote for a turkey for president

we have to be innovative, y'know?

Unknown said...

If this upset you, i wonder how perturbed you were about the youtube video uploaded by a UCLA student degrading and disparaging the Asian community... oh and she's a political science major (I guess one doesn't have to have a grasp of political correctness when you're a political science major... or a college student in a school notorious for the Asian population)

Unknown said...

@Leila: When I first saw that vid, I nearly jumped out of my skin. Ignorance, intolerance and general closed-mindedness bother me TO NO END.

If I had to pick a major thing I'd like to fix while still alive, it would be problems that are stemmed from those 3 issues.

People are allowed to have opinions, that's a given. But cmon, try to think a little before you take a stance. Not only to keep yourself from looking like a moron, but so you can actually contribute to a healthy discussion!

G said...

I love the US political system and how divisive it can be... everything seems to get so entrenched and polarised. It's amazing to watch as an outsider... especially as it's such a vast, yet totally unified, country.

Zombie said...

No matter who is president, some one, some where will hate their guts!!

Unknown said...

@Idaho and it becomes an endless trail of hate when some Asians responded with their own scathing interpretations of the video. I was just upset they didn't expel her. Otherwise, she lost the battle regardless.

@G - It's unified in the sense that most of the American populace does not know nearly half of what goes on within the grimy apparatus we call a democratic government. It was once beautiful and functional. now it's a sordid shadow of its former glory. Political partisanship is never good for government in my opinion. Though it's more organized, it leads to a homogeneous, and often times erroneous, political body.

Al Penwasser said...

I avoid writing anything political, because it just depresses the hell out of me.
But, I agree with you 100%.

Dwija {House Unseen} said...

Really? Trump and Huckabee were their top picks? Trump and Huckabee??? What is wrong with people?

THE SNEE said...

I am in complete agreement with you on this one. Why don't people open their eyes, and truly use their heads when evaluating a candidate for THE PRESIDENT?

Anonymous said...

It's absurd how people perceive this type of thinking when they are voting.

Melanie said...

Generally, I don't think anyone will ever be happy with which ever party is in office - you always want what you don't have.

Anonymous said...

people vote for names, they don´t vote for whose making real actions.

Bart said...

my town is crazier, they steal dogs, then get fucked up. crazy

Astronomy Pirate said...

Republican? Democrat? As long as both continue to run things, we all lose. They both only care about party politics at this point and nothing of any real value to the country.

Unknown said...

At this point they shouldn't even put an (R), (D), or (I) next to a name in an election, I think. Just list a name, their stance on issues and let people decide from that. God forbid anyone do some actual thinking for themselves instead of letting their favourite media outlet decide who should get their vote!

On My Soapbox said...

I couldn't agree more. In our home, we vote for whomever we think will do the best job, regardless of party. It may be blasphemous to some, but they will get over it.

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